Dave Hunter

Started by jeffh, December 16, 2018, 06: PM

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jeffh

Having watched the recent interview Dave Hunter gave to Hartlepool TV, first of all I must say well done to Dave as I believe he is the first Hartlepool Labour Councillor to grant such an interview - as it was said at the end CAB was invited but didn't respond.

In the interview Dave talked about adopting the Preston model - not being up to speed in local politics I Googled it - it seems to be a Socialist model where community enterprise put money back into the community - we know of at least three community enterprises that operate or have operated in Hartlepool - for those not up to speed they are Manor Residents Association, Owton Fens Community Association and Rift House - the first was the subject of a police investigation, the second has just been wound up and the last we can't find anything about - one thing is for sure though is that none of them put anything back into the community - so where does Dave see the Preston Model making a difference.

What I was hoping for was something closer to home such as reintroducing uncensored public questioning, councillors facing their public in the council chamber, transparency in council funded projects, political balance in committees, no alliance with Conservatives .... as usual the list could go on.

So come on Dave we need quick fixes to go towards solving a long term problem


UnknownUser

It's also known as the Cleveland model (as in Cleveland, Ohio), for your google/research purposes.
When the law no longer protects you from the corrupt, but protects the corrupt from you, you know your nation is doomed.

Ayn Rand

Lucy Lass-Tick

Quote from: UnknownUser on December 16, 2018, 07: PM
It's also known as the Cleveland model (as in Cleveland, Ohio), for your google/research purposes.

Thanks.

Inspector Knacker

Is he the Messiah? I'll keep my powder dry for now.
What can be asserted without proof,
can be dismissed without proof.

Johnny Bongo

Having just watched the vid, I can honestly say that he told me nothing of any substance!  All talk and no action!  How long has he been a HBC councillor?  Why only now that he and the other muppets are rebelling?  The Preston model! ???  Might as well be an Airfix model!  At least we'd see an end result!  The only time I'd even take a millisecond to believe ANYTHING that a HBC Labour councillor or our MP says, would be when they investigate those CIC's that jeffh has just mentioned!  Btw, have you ever notices CAB's reg plate on his BMW?  **04 MRA,  If that's not taking the p&$%, then I don't know what is!

Land Phil

My thoughts are Dave Hunter is a nice chap but wonder if he is offering a better version
of a broken party when we need something completely new.

Lucy Lass-Tick

Quote from: Inspector Knacker on December 16, 2018, 08: PM
Is he the Messiah? I'll keep my powder dry for now.

Haven't met him myself, but most people do seem to consider him a decent chap. Some of his apparent disciples do send a warning bell ringing, however.

Inspector Knacker

I really don't see what all the clamour for him is about. He's been a Councillor in what I consider the worst Council since since 1764 when a herd of Town Moor militant sheep were allegedly elected.
I don't want a 'nicer' version of what we already have. I've had more than enough.
I want change, not an airbrushed continuation of tired old local party politics.
Be done with them and turn a new page.
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can be dismissed without proof.

Owen Jones

Come on councillors pick a side let's see where your loyalties lie. Make the right choice for the town.

Inspector Knacker

Most of them couldn't decide which side of their nose to pick first.
No doubt their self survival gene will kick in eventually.
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can be dismissed without proof.

fred c

My reservations would only be assuaged if the Corbyn Pixies ( if they get control ) commit to an Independent forensic investigation into the labmobs financial dealings in the last 5 years.

I can't imagine any such commitment from them, the cost could be one excuse another could be any embarrassment to the council

Inspector Knacker

I sometimes get the impression that people are desperate to have a sensible Labour Party running the town and will jump at any chance to resume normal service and carry on voting Labour. Normal service resumed. All's well in the world and God's in his Heaven.
And the same decades old tradition of following your ancestors voting pattern  will continue and so will the stagnation.
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DRiddle

I don't think it's as simple as 'get rid of the Akers-Belchers, Cranney etc' and all of a sudden 'all is well'. They've done untold damage to both Labour and the council as a whole.

There DOES need to be a forensic financial investigation facilitated by an new occupants of the 'power positions' within HBC.

Whether that power is occupied by Labour or other groups, it needs to happen. Either to fully refresh a tarnished Labour Party in Hartlepool, or bury them for a generation.

Both sides of the chamber need to push for it.

Inspector Knacker

I suspect there'll be a seamless transition.
What can be asserted without proof,
can be dismissed without proof.