Farage Fluffs It

[craig finton]

Whatever possessed Nigel Farage to have a pop at the audience during last night's televised debate? Talk about losing it.

https://youtu.be/W70PXllDAso

[marky]

He didn't do so well in the first debate either.His HIV remark went down like a lead balloon.

https://youtu.be/r1tHvf3lBB4

https://youtu.be/rgPiZIJJQk0

[not4me]

There have always been people who have s**t lives and desperately want someone else to blame for it. Check your history: Albanians, Jews and now 'Immigrants' - and there have always been parasitic politicians ready to feed on it.

[ashamedtobebritish]

I actually though Nigel was doing very well, until he opened his mouth about the audience, Not exactly his finest hour and frankly hes going to have to do abit better if he wants the support of the country behind him.

The man seems very intelligent just unfortunately his mouth seems to open before his brain catches up,


But we have to count our lucky stars.... He was the only one there who was actually using it.

[getagrip]

Nigel knows very well that the BBC tends to invite leftie types to these debates, there were a total of 58 Tory and UKIP supporters and 102 supporters of "left-leaning" parties. It's a tried and tested method of silencing people like Farage who just want to inject some common sense into all the political correctness. These Capchas are very difficult for us partially sighted people...

[steveL]

I think Dimbleby made it perfectly clear that the audience was NOT chosen by the BBC.

Whichever way you look at it, having a go at the audience was a stupid thing to do. I think Farage is paying the price for trying to control everything himself and trying to be the sole face of UKIP. He has very good PR skills but is terrified of allowing the membership a stage - with good reason. I'm not surprised the pressure is getting to him.

[The Great Dictator]

I like him, he speaks his mind.

[mk1]

I like him, he speaks his mind.

So he does not talk for very long then............

[mk1]

I think Dimbleby made it perfectly clear that the audience was NOT chosen by the BBC

No one can hear you. Minds are closed.
They opposed Nigel = they are lefties and it is all a commie plot.

The reality(UKIP are a minority group and as such are outnumbered by Lab/Con supporters) means nothing to them.
UKIP Press confrences are very tightly controlled affairs where those who are not supportive are not even allowed  in the room. There was a recent UKIP documentry where we saw  how journalists were being hand-picked to get to question Nigel and anyone  not considered a friend was barred from any contact with him. Farage is used to soft questions and he just can not understand why anyone should be allowed to boo of jeer him.

[Jim Gillespie]

I'm not sure whether to laugh or cry at some of the reactions Farage evokes.

Love him or loathe him, the man is simply stating the facts as they are.

For example, he is 100% correct when he says an extra 300,000 migrants is putting a strain on housing.  Of course it is, but the other 4 on the panel wouldn't even acknowledge that; instead they all turned on Farage as a racist (YAWN) and trying to cause division within our society.

Similar story with overseas aid.  Surely people in the UK, irrespective of their political persuasions, must all agree there is a fundamental problem with our society when we have 400 food banks, 25% of our children in poverty and loads of ex service people with health problems homeless on our streets - yet we give £10 billion per annum in foreign aid - some of that money going directly to countries who hate us.

I am very grateful to Farage for he is determining the agenda down in Westminster now and if it wasn't for him, the issues he raises would never be discussed by the other 3 leaders 

[Mr.E]

Election debate fix - BBC admits two out of three audience members were lefties
THE BBC has confirmed the hand-picked audience for last night's election debate WAS left-leaning – though Nigel Farage was booed for pointing this out.

http://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/571208/Leader-s-election-debate-BBC-confirms-audience-WAS-left-leaning-as-Farage-claimed

As for being a fringe part UKIP are taking in people from all sides because unlike others they admitt when they are wrong and deal with it unlike the other three who still have those employed after they were found out!

As for being the only people who don't/didn't like the Brussels gravy train pleas look at Tony Ben a Labour man of old but well regarded

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jRO4eiK0H0Y

And the media has laws that it needs to abide by which the BBC and others did not!!

UKIP leader Nigel Farage has instructed the party's lawyers to act over BBC bias.

The BBC initially refused to disclose the political make-up of the audience but eventually released figures to Express online, which showed that the audience was Left-leaning.

Of the 200-strong audience, about 58 were Conservative or Ukip supporters, while about 102 backed Labour, the Lib Dems, SNP or Plaid Cymru, all Leftist parties. The remaining 40 described themselves as undecided.

The figures mean that just 29 per cent of the total audience were supporters of the Tories or Ukip.

The BBC has also faced a string of accusations of bias from the Tories.

It has been alleged that the Question Time audience is weighted towards Labour and the Tories accused the corporation of "bias" and "systematic exaggeration" after its coverage of the Chancellor's Autumn Statement last year.

http://www.express.co.uk/news/politics/571439/Ukip-lawyers-biased-BBC-Furious-Farage-war-Left-wing-debate-audience

[marky]

Poor Nigel. He just never knows when it's best to stay quiet.

[mk1]

Election debate fix - BBC admits two out of three audience members were lefties
THE BBC has confirmed the hand-picked audience for last night's election debate WAS left-leaning – though Nigel Farage was booed for pointing this out.

Oh dear. It seems the Ukippers are not happy that they are taking a nose-dive in the polls and are thrashing about trying to blame everyone other than their policies for this fact.
Who but them would believe that  the debate should be 'balanced' so that they and their ilk are over-represented with a childishly stupid claim that it should be a left-right 50-50 split ?
Truth is the UK is not a right leaning country. UKIP better get used to this fact. The premature gloating and boasting they did a few months ago here is going to come back and haunt them when UKIP are drubbed in the election. From claims they would be the next Government then to  now saying the might get as many as 10 MPs! How quickly the dream fades.

As for being a fringe part UKIP are taking in people from all sides

Err did you not say above UKIP were a party of the right?
If your claim is you are an inclusive party then you should have drawn support from the 'left' and the undecided audience members.
Why did this not happen? Is it because UKIP are a far-right fringe party?

The actual figures for the audience ratio:

Conservative 5

Labour 5

Lib Dem 4

Ukip 3

SNP 2

Green 2

Plaid 1.

This meant that just 36% of audience members swung to the right.


The government is made up of Con-Lib and they add up to 9.
If we take UKIP as a goverment supporting party then add 3 to make 12.

All the others come to only 10.
I think the audience was  overwhelming slanted towards the government and Labour were victims of a clear BBC bias.

The UKIP bully-Boys are on the back foot and  they are getting their excuses in early  for the looming electoral disaster.  The dream is over Nigel.

[mk1]

By the way it appears UKIP are not confining their ire  to the BBC.

Here is the  whiney UKIP  list:

"In this case, the BBC gave the job to a polling company called ICM who are famous for getting everything about Ukip wrong and that I think was the mistake."

He said it wasn't the first time a BBC audience had been aggressive towards Ukip. He added: "The night of the by-election that Douglas Carswell won in Clacton with a landslide, there was a Ukip representative - Patrick O'Flynn - on Question Time in Clacton and the audience were deeply hostile to him."

He also repeated claims of a bias audience on Sky News saying: "From the off it was so completely obvious that we did not have an audience reflective of public opinion.

Not content with the above Nigel had to get one of his dog-whistle points over:

"Regardless of whether you are a Ukip supporter or not, this [immigration] is something that has a huge response in the public."

He must have forgot about 'Mowslems' and 'Yourope' in his anger!

There is also a very reasoned readers reply to the original article. It is hard to spot in the torrent of UKIP complaints:

This article is nonsensical. First of all, the BBC haven't 'admitted' anything - they've simply produced the formula used independently by ICM to construct a representative audience. Secondly, the 3 places out of 22 allocated to UKIP equates to 13.7%, which accurately reflects the average in current polling. Thirdly, many respondents to this article seem to be under the impression that there is a majority in favour of the right in Britain today; that simply isn't the case, however much you might want it to be so; remember that the Conservatives haven't won a majority at a general election since 1992. The majority in Britain is actually left of centre and a representative audience cannot be otherwise. Fourthly, the idea that the BBC these days has a leftward bias is laughable. As others have pointed out, Nigel Farage has had an astonishing number of appearances on Question Time, indeed he probably owes a great deal of his popularity to that. And finally, for the Express to criticise the BBC for bias is absurd, when the Express' owner has just donated over £1m to UKIP. One of the many great strengths of the BBC is that it cannot be bought by powerful interests. We own it and we can hold it to account.



He is wasting his time. The deluded Ukip followers just can not accept they are not as popular as they believe they should be. When faced with this reality they self-destruct.

[craig finton]

I don't think the UKIP bubble has burst; it's more like a slowly deflating balloon. The core vote of Neanderthals will remain solid but the extra votes needed from those who don't have massive chips on their shoulders will diminish over the next two weeks. The even spread of their support geographically is why the current poll of polls is suggesting that they'll only have one MP on May 8th.