Councillor or MP?

not4me · April 12, 2015, 10: AM

I notice that Philip Broughton is having trouble deciding if he wants to be an MP or a Councillor having decided to stand as a Councillor in Headland and Harbour as well as UKIP's candidate in the General Election. Not the smartest of moves I would have thought.

marky · April 12, 2015, 10: AM

Silly man. I guess if he doesn't win as MP he hopes to scrape in as a councillor as some sort of consolation prize, which tells me that he's not really committed to either.

steveL · April 12, 2015, 11: AM

The two existing UKIP councillors have been a total disappointment and appear to be totally out of their depth. I can't think of anything they have done or initiated; they don't seem to have even pushed the UKIP message, whatever that is, which is the least you would have expected. The chairs they sit on have contributed more to council meetings than they have.

Inspector Knacker · April 12, 2015, 11: AM

The way things are going, the only way Wrighty will be beaten is if the pic n mix collection of candidates opposing him are actually the same person and allowed to pool the cumulative votes.

craig finton · April 12, 2015, 01: PM

He's from Stockton too. That's not going to help either

Jim Gillespie · April 12, 2015, 08: PM

Is this forum unbiased or is it run and moderated by PHF candidates and supporters?

I genuinely don't know; not looking to start a bun fight...

mk1 · April 12, 2015, 08: PM

Quote from: Jim Gillespie on April 12, 2015, 08: PM
Is this forum unbiased or is it run and moderated by PHF candidates and supporters?

I genuinely don't know; not looking to start a bun fight...

I believe it is an equal opportunity 'knocking shop'. However the thrust of the forum is anti- national political Party.
It would be wrong to say it 'censors' anti-PHF comments because no one has come in for more criticism on these pages than D Riddle. He has a legion of stalkers both on here and on The Mail site. I would say no one else has been subject to such a torrent of (unwarranted) abuse and thus the site can in no way be said to be biased. It might be that the PHF people outnumber the others but there is no bar on insulting PHF.
The cheque did not clear until Saturday by the way. I will see you Monday.

steveL · April 12, 2015, 09: PM

The forum has been running for over 13 years and so is a lot older than PHF. I'm a member of PHF and am standing as a candidate. As for the other people involved, the only thing I can say with certainty is that there aren't presently any UKIPers involved in running the whole site but that doesn't mean there won't be one at some stage. If Farage turns out to be an expert on DDOS attacks then I'm sure he'd be more than welcome.

I know that you're telling everyone to vote UKIP, Jim, but I only hope that you have someone better to offer than the two dormice you've already landed us with neither of whom have contributed a thing in the last 12 months other than some extraordinary gaffs.

Tom Hind, for example, blurted out that he thought ward budgets were 'a good way to buy votes' while George Springer's only contribution of note was to suggest that a new bungalow development would be used to house immigrants.
It's now perfectly obvious that if a discussion isn't centred around the EU, Immigrants or Muslims then they have absolutely bugger all to say.

As an aside, there was some interesting advice posted on some Facebook site from one of the Green candidates.

More than interesting really after I listened to that Australian woman on TV today going on about how the Green Party was all about ethics.

beanzontoast · April 12, 2015, 09: PM

SteveL the 2 existing UKIP councillors aren't out of their depth at all they are just stunned as to how the labour controlled council have been allowed to get away with it all for so long,we realised after the first few months of being elected , the 3 torys were with labour which made 22 votes against the rest, given those odds yes I agree a chair would have had more effect on outcomes, we try our best in committees again they have more labour delegates out voted at every turn. ukip are a nation party with local policies look at them if you wish let us get on with the task by voting for us on may 7th, running for council yourself or shut up and get out of the way. Apologies for being so blunt, but the only thing wrong with socialism is it eventually runs out of other peoples money.
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Jim Gillespie · April 12, 2015, 09: PM

Thanks for clearing things up for me guys

steveL · April 12, 2015, 09: PM

Quote from: beanzontoast on April 12, 2015, 09: PM
SteveL the 2 existing UKIP councillors aren't out of their depth at all they are just stunned as to how the labour controlled council have been allowed to get away with it all for so long,we realised after the first few months of being elected , the 3 torys were with labour which made 22 votes against the rest, given those odds yes I agree a chair would have had more effect on outcomes, we try our best in committees again they have more labour delegates out voted at every turn. ukip are a nation party with local policies look at them if you wish let us get on with the task by voting for us on may 7th, running for council yourself or shut up and get out of the way. Apologies for being so blunt, but the only thing wrong with socialism is it eventually runs out of other peoples money.
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Are you seriously telling me that you weren't aware that Labour had a majority in the council before you found yourself sitting in the council chamber and that it took 'a few months' to realise that the Tories voted with Labour? You are only confirming what I suspected in that you are all about the EU, Immigration and Muslims i.e. national issues and are clueless when it comes to local Hartlepool politics.

PHF and other Independents face the same Labour/Tory majority as you but have been far more effective in setting the agenda and in putting Labour under pressure. You guys seem to have realised for the first time that Labour had a majority and promptly threw the towel in there and then.

Oh and as for the "look at them if you wish let us get on with the task by voting for us on may 7th, running for council yourself or shut up and get out of the way." bit, for God's sake read the candidate list - or are you unaware of that too?

I tell you now, Eric Wilson would not have proven to be such a wuss.

Jim Gillespie · April 12, 2015, 10: PM

I have to be honest; I think the same thing.

Why oh why chose a lad from Stockton who has some idiotic videos on YouTube?

It has to be someone from Hartlepool to be in with any hope of beating Wright

beanzontoast · April 13, 2015, 08: AM

My point was the 2 UKIP councillors were only elected in May, lets see how it goes on may 7th , the way I see it PHF have been as ineffective as UKIP in the chamber and they have been there much longer.

grim reaper · April 13, 2015, 09: AM

'PHF as ineffective as UKIP in the chamber'?

What a load of bollox.
Have you ever been to a meeting in the chamber?
Have you ever watched any of the videos posted on here?

David Riddle has set the place ON FIRE!
He has attacked with a vengeance the muppets and 'yes men' in that chamber.
He has given the fat boy palpitations with his barbed attacks on him and his style of 'leadership'.
He has thrown down the gauntlet to those opposite him in the chamber (remember his oratory on the people that have served with honour, 'those opposite have served with DISHONOUR'). Or words to that effect.

He succumb to a 'gavel attack' from the fat boy and had to (begrudgingly) retract a statement.

David Riddle has been the catalyst that has shown the general public just what a shower of lying, fiddling 'ner do wells' sit opposite him (alongside their 3 compatriots along the table from him).

Ineffective? I wish the chamber was as full of people with the scruples and welfare of this town as D. Riddle has.

not4me · April 13, 2015, 09: AM

Quote from: beanzontoast on April 13, 2015, 08: AM
My point was the 2 UKIP councillors were only elected in May, lets see how it goes on may 7th , the way I see it PHF have been as ineffective as UKIP in the chamber and they have been there much longer.

I make that 12 months of doing nothing and on that basis you want to see more of the same elected this time around. Well good luck with that one, mate.

The way I read it, you're saying that you need a majority before you can do anything. I think PHF and the Independents have proven that to be wrong. There's a thread on this forum with 2549 views about the Mayor being sacked and how he lied about the circumstances. You wouldn't have heard anything about that if it wasn't for PHF and the Independents.