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Politics => Local Issues and Matters => Topic started by: jeffh on June 27, 2017, 01: PM

Title: Non Partisan Labour Party (NPLP)
Post by: jeffh on June 27, 2017, 01: PM
Does anybody know the opening times of the town Labour Party Office in South Road?  I went along there this morning to try to find out more about Mike Hill's proposal for a Non Partisan Labour Party in a neutral part of the office - all the shutters were up.
Title: Re: Non Partisan Labour Party (NPLP)
Post by: Riqueti on June 27, 2017, 03: PM
Yes.
Title: Re: Non Partisan Labour Party (NPLP)
Post by: Riqueti on June 27, 2017, 03: PM
Best off emailing Mike as he won't always be at the office.
Title: Re: Non Partisan Labour Party (NPLP)
Post by: jeffh on June 27, 2017, 03: PM
Quote from: Riqueti on June 27, 2017, 03: PM
Best off emailing Mike as he won't always be at the office.
Thanks
Title: Re: Non Partisan Labour Party (NPLP)
Post by: mk1 on June 27, 2017, 03: PM
Quote from: Riqueti on June 27, 2017, 03: PM
Yes.
Back to your last ID now?
Title: Re: Non Partisan Labour Party (NPLP)
Post by: Riqueti on June 27, 2017, 05: PM
I've only got this one ID on here. Mine didn't change
Title: Re: Non Partisan Labour Party (NPLP)
Post by: Inspector Knacker on June 27, 2017, 05: PM
A non  partisan political party is like a non partisan wolf.
Title: share and share alike
Post by: steveL on June 27, 2017, 07: PM
One ID Michelle but then you share it with so many . . .
Title: Re: Non Partisan Labour Party (NPLP)
Post by: Riqueti on June 27, 2017, 07: PM
Nope, wrong again Mr Latimer. Please don't be making accusationary comments like that. It's not clever.

My posting history is there for all to see. Nothing to hide
Title: Re: Non Partisan Labour Party (NPLP)
Post by: mk1 on June 27, 2017, 07: PM
Interesting exchange on Facebook where  James tacitly admits he was the 'new' poster and he was 'testing/probing' the site security.

Title: Re: Non Partisan Labour Party (NPLP)
Post by: danny_boy on June 27, 2017, 08: PM
Quote from: Riqueti on June 27, 2017, 07: PM
Nope, wrong again Mr Latimer. Please don't be making accusationary comments like that. It's not clever.

My posting history is there for all to see. Nothing to hide

What Steve thinks is his own business. Frankly, I'm not in the mood to chance it.

(http://www.hartlepoolpost.co.uk/images/red%20card.jpg)
Title: Re: Non Partisan Labour Party (NPLP)
Post by: Username on June 27, 2017, 08: PM
That seems to be a warning of some sort because one member corrected another. That can't be right surely? I can't see anything there against the registration agreement or are there other rules I need to be aware of?
Title: Re: Non Partisan Labour Party (NPLP)
Post by: Username on June 27, 2017, 08: PM
Quote from: mk1 on June 27, 2017, 07: PM
Interesting exchange on Facebook where  James tacitly admits he was the 'new' poster and he was 'testing/probing' the site security.

I think this is misleading and doesn't fit with the posted picture 'evidence'. The first person questions bypassing a restriction, a full read of the post shows this to be an IP block, IPs can be changed with ease and it is perfectly legal to do. The second person replays that his security software alerted him to insecurities. There is no suggestion of probing or hacking etc.

This could well be against the terms of the registration agreement I'm not sure and would happily accept guidance.
Title: Re: Non Partisan Labour Party (NPLP)
Post by: Riqueti on June 27, 2017, 08: PM
Quote from: mk1 on June 27, 2017, 07: PM
Interesting exchange on Facebook where  James tacitly admits he was the 'new' poster and he was 'testing/probing' the site security.

MK1... I'm not sure I follow?
Title: Re: Non Partisan Labour Party (NPLP)
Post by: mk1 on June 27, 2017, 08: PM
Quote from: Username on June 27, 2017, 08: PM


I think this is misleading and doesn't fit with the posted picture 'evidence'. The first person questions bypassing a restriction, a full read of the post shows this to be an IP block, IPs can be changed with ease and it is perfectly legal to do. The second person replays that his security software alerted him to insecurities. There is no suggestion of probing or hacking etc.
This could well be against the terms of the registration agreement I'm not sure and would happily accept guidance.

You seem remarkably well informed on the actions of  certain 'other' posters. Oh and remember this 'other' poster was denying he was the man and  now admits it was him.....and in a thread he started where he was banging on about people lying!!!!!!!!!


You were not banned but put on pre-mod.  Congratulations on your swift return. I doubt it will last though given the  recurring forum problem with 'Trojan Horse' posters. The Red Dreams bloke did a lot of damage in his short time here. Obviously the threat is being taken more seriously this time around.

Title: Re: Non Partisan Labour Party (NPLP)
Post by: Riqueti on June 27, 2017, 09: PM
Quote from: danny_boy on June 27, 2017, 08: PM
Quote from: Riqueti on June 27, 2017, 07: PM
Nope, wrong again Mr Latimer. Please don't be making accusationary comments like that. It's not clever.

My posting history is there for all to see. Nothing to hide

What Steve thinks is his own business. Frankly, I'm not in the mood to chance it.

(http://www.hartlepoolpost.co.uk/images/red%20card.jpg)

Thanks. I'm obviously doing something to annoy people, not sure what exactly. I must just have that effect on people.
Title: Re: Non Partisan Labour Party (NPLP)
Post by: Username on June 27, 2017, 09: PM
I read the thread the picture was linked to, that's where I gained my information as I like to look at as much information as I can before commenting or making a decision.

Swift return? I've not been registered on this forum before I don't think. I did join the facebook group a few years back but I'm not in there now.
Title: Re: Non Partisan Labour Party (NPLP)
Post by: Riqueti on June 27, 2017, 09: PM
Quote from: danny_boy on June 27, 2017, 08: PM
Quote from: Riqueti on June 27, 2017, 07: PM
Nope, wrong again Mr Latimer. Please don't be making accusationary comments like that. It's not clever.

My posting history is there for all to see. Nothing to hide

What Steve thinks is his own business. Frankly, I'm not in the mood to chance it.

(http://www.hartlepoolpost.co.uk/images/red%20card.jpg)
Title: Re: Non Partisan Labour Party (NPLP)
Post by: Username on June 27, 2017, 09: PM
I've used the report to moderator feature as I don't know any other way to get a reply. Please feel free to delete this post if I can get a reply.

Why am I on this approval system? This is not the best way to encourage new users to the forum. Also, I haven't used my name in my ID, as most people don't, but I'm willing for my identity to be known and I can confirm that I am not James. I would appreciate being taken on my own merit and not tarred by the same brush as another.

I appreciate the need to keep the forum safe from abuse but I am not here for nefarious reasons, I do enjoy debate and offering alternative points of view, not arguement, I keep things on topic without resorting to personal attacks. I think I may be the least likely person here to break the rules. Feel free to monitor my posts and challenge me where needed but please do not stifle my contributions for no good reason.
Title: Re: Non Partisan Labour Party (NPLP)
Post by: Land Phil on June 28, 2017, 07: AM
Why join a forum just to cause childish trouble ?

If you don't agree with the majority here, why not set up your own forum?

Trying to win arguments by being "clever" is not what we are about here.
Title: Re: Non Partisan Labour Party (NPLP)
Post by: Riqueti on June 28, 2017, 07: AM
How am I causing childish trouble?
Title: Re: Non Partisan Labour Party (NPLP)
Post by: Land Phil on June 28, 2017, 08: AM
Quote from: Riqueti on June 28, 2017, 07: AM
How am I causing childish trouble?

I take it all back, USERPAIN was irritating me. I'll go back to sleep.
Title: Re: Non Partisan Labour Party (NPLP)
Post by: Username on June 28, 2017, 08: AM
Quote from: Land Phil on June 28, 2017, 08: AM
Quote from: Riqueti on June 28, 2017, 07: AM
How am I causing childish trouble?

I take it all back, USERPAIN was irritating me. I'll go back to sleep.

Taking part in the discussions and trying to further debate is seen as causing childish trouble? How else is a forum supposed to work pray tell?

Is that the reason I am on pre-mod? Because I irritated someone? That is an horrendous abuse of power by a moderator or admin wbo's entire purpose is to ensure the conversations stay within the rules and on topic.
Title: Re: Non Partisan Labour Party (NPLP)
Post by: Riqueti on June 28, 2017, 09: AM
Quote from: Land Phil on June 28, 2017, 08: AM
Quote from: Riqueti on June 28, 2017, 07: AM
How am I causing childish trouble?

I take it all back, USERPAIN was irritating me. I'll go back to sleep.

Ah sorry, thought you were referring to me. Was going to say I haven't done anything LOL
Title: Re: Non Partisan Labour Party (NPLP)
Post by: fred c on June 28, 2017, 09: AM
If people don't like the tone of the various debates on The Post, why do they bother to use the forums, just go elsewhere, there are other social media outlets that are available for them to express their particular views, the number and variety of 'attacks' on The Post over the years give admin every reason to be extremely wary of new users of the site.

Having said that......there are some who, when the Dog Farts....... They Sniff.



Title: Re: Non Partisan Labour Party (NPLP)
Post by: Username on June 28, 2017, 10: AM
Fred it's nothing to do with he tone of debate. I have no issue with that at all as long as the rules are enforced evenly. I don't care if the forum is ruled with an iron hand or a silk glove so long as it's the same for everyone. At present it appears, and I am new so I've not been able to read a great many posts so I may be wrong, that some people get a free pass where insults and derision is concerned and others are jumped upon for any reason real or imagined. I do hope this isn't the case. I appreciate there have been issues for the site but I'm not sure I agree with the diagnosis so far. I think that's more a general discussion thing though so I'll not discuss it here.

In response to your previous post: I personally use forums to be exposed to differing opinions to my own, I would like to see how people have formed their opinions and what information they have used. If it's new information to me great, I can further my knowledge and update my opinions if needed, if it's the same information I have seen but a different conclusion then I would discuss this. I would like to know if I've given a certain bit of information too much or too little credence or whether I feel someone else has. I'm absolutely fine with people holding different view to me but I will seek to understand them. That isn't a personal attack on anyone or causing trouble it's debate, discussion, dare I say progress.
Title: Re: Non Partisan Labour Party (NPLP)
Post by: mk1 on June 28, 2017, 10: AM
Quote from: fred c on June 28, 2017, 09: AM
If people don't like the tone of the various debates on The Post, why do they bother to use the forums, just go elsewhere, there are other social media outlets that are available for them to express their particular views, the number and variety of 'attacks' on The Post over the years give admin every reason to be extremely wary of new users of the site.

Having said that......there are some who, when the Dog Farts....... They Sniff.

I don't think not agreeing with the majority opinion is a good enough reason for a ban and I am not aware of anyone being banned for such a reason. The current 'pre-mod' complainer (which is not a ban as can clearly be shown by the fact he is still posting) appears to me a to be reaction to events in which the possibility that insiders may be up to no good makes the site owners ultra-cautious with those they believe to be 'friends' of the  suspected culprit. The current pre-mod can be seen 'sucking up' to the suspected hacker elsewhere so  does not do himself any favours. All I can say is  life is not fair and it may be that he has been unjustly treated but the mistake will be rectified if he wants it to be rectified.
James is clearly a man on a mission and appears to devote an inordinate amount of effort to get his voice heard on the site. He has several fake IDs still active here and it is comical to see him moaning he is banned whilst at the same time  observing that his posts are still on view in the forum archives.
The history here for those who have short memories is that James took mortal offence several years back when Riddle blocked him on  Facebook(?). In retaliation James set up a
38 page Blog
where he listed in obsessive detail every slight he believes he suffered at the hands of Riddle. I am not making that up there really was a 38 page assassination of Riddle and here we are years later and he is still whining and crying over it.
Title: Re: Non Partisan Labour Party (NPLP)
Post by: mk1 on June 28, 2017, 10: AM
Quote from: Username on June 28, 2017, 10: AM
At present it appears, and I am new so I've not been able to read a great many posts so I may be wrong, that some people get a free pass where insults and derision is concerned and others are jumped upon for any reason real or imagined.

That is wrong. I have had several posts deleted  for no apparent reason and seeing as it is not my forum I never once enquired about the removal.I just did not care enough about it. I have also been censored several times. I have had serious doubts about the way deeply troubled individuals with frightening views about 'foreigners' were allowed to vent here and no action taken. In my case I know I have  gone against the forum flow  in relation to the (expected) Corbyn 'wipe-out' at the last GE and I have not missed any opportunity to remind  people of their mistake. Indeed I will admit to being  gratuitously offensive in my posts just so as to irk my opponents. If I get deleted I accept it but the problem with James and his organ grinder is they believe that have the god-given right to demand answers to 'their' questions and if they do not get the answer they want then to keep asking the same question over and over and over and over again. You have to wonder about the motives of someone who   does little else  other than constantly traduce the forum and spends an inordinate amount of time either trying to post here or writing about it on other sites.
Title: Re: Non Partisan Labour Party (NPLP)
Post by: fred c on June 28, 2017, 10: AM
The Post has provided a practical information and discussion service in relation to all manner of happenings in Hartlepool, by and large those attributes have been beneficial, providing information and provoking actions that have benefited the residents of the town, if someone is seeking an esoteric discussion forum, I would suggest The Post isn't the medium to use.

Title: Re: Non Partisan Labour Party (NPLP)
Post by: Username on June 28, 2017, 10: AM
I converse with a great many people over several different platforms, I don't suck up to anyone. I do challenge things where I see it needed regardless of who needs that challenge. In this case it was my (now lifted) pre-mod and the red card thing which I'm still not sure was an official warning or just another post to Riqueti for correcting a comment by Steve Latimer when surely Riqueti is the best person to know this information.

MK1: If I have something removed I would always ask why unless it was clear to me I was being deliberately offensive etc in which case I wouldn't make the post in the first place.

Fred: Every person who wishes to come here and discuss the events of the town should be welcomed and encouraged not repetly told not to be here. Just my opinion.
Title: Re: Non Partisan Labour Party (NPLP)
Post by: Username on June 28, 2017, 10: AM
in reference to "He has several fake IDs still active here" there are several 'guest' accounts viewing the threads right now. It's entirely possible that he doesn't have a fake account here.
Title: Re: Non Partisan Labour Party (NPLP)
Post by: mk1 on June 28, 2017, 11: AM
Quote from: Username on June 28, 2017, 10: AM
in reference to "He has several fake IDs still active here" there are several 'guest' accounts viewing the threads right now. It's entirely possible that he doesn't have a fake account here.

You have to be a member to post.
Title: Re: Non Partisan Labour Party (NPLP)
Post by: The Great Dictator on June 28, 2017, 11: AM



   Do you wish to debate something constructive on here ?
Title: Re: Non Partisan Labour Party (NPLP)
Post by: Username on June 28, 2017, 11: AM
I believe it has all been on topic and in keeping with the other posts therefore constructive? I have been keeping things in the separate threads to ensure there is no topic bleed or distraction.
Title: Re: Non Partisan Labour Party (NPLP)
Post by: Inspector Knacker on June 28, 2017, 12: PM
Will you be staying long?
Title: Re: Non Partisan Labour Party (NPLP)
Post by: Username on June 28, 2017, 01: PM
I will. I believe I can learn from everyone so I intend to stay on the site and see different points of view as well as the information that gets shared here to expand my horrizons
Title: Re: Non Partisan Labour Party (NPLP)
Post by: Inspector Knacker on June 28, 2017, 02: PM
Of course you are.
Title: Re: Non Partisan Labour Party (NPLP)
Post by: Riqueti on June 28, 2017, 02: PM
Not even sure what I've done to warrant being put on pre-mod, all I can believe is that it's pre-mod by association because I have James Campbell on my Facebook list.

Title: Re: Non Partisan Labour Party (NPLP)
Post by: Riqueti on June 28, 2017, 02: PM
Oh for correcting SteveL when he implied that I allow other people to use my log in. Which is wrong, I don't, and neither does Mr Latimer have any proof to even begin suggesting this.
Title: Re: Non Partisan Labour Party (NPLP)
Post by: Land Phil on June 28, 2017, 04: PM
You can tell it is raining.
Title: Re: Non Partisan Labour Party (NPLP)
Post by: Inspector Knacker on June 29, 2017, 06: AM
Quote from: Username on June 28, 2017, 01: PM
I will. I believe I can learn from everyone so I intend to stay on the site and see different points of view as well as the information that gets shared here to expand my horrizons
I suspect you're here to give an 'alternative' viewpoint.
Title: Re: Non Partisan Labour Party (NPLP)
Post by: Username on June 29, 2017, 09: AM
I would hope we all have alternative viewpoints