The Mail writes today
"A DEAL for Hartlepool Borough Council to buy a derelict retail site is set to be "concluded" imminently according to regeneration chiefs.
The council is in negotiations to buy Jacksons Landing, at Hartlepool Marina, as part of plans to then sell the land on for redevelopment.
Council bosses are remaining tight lipped over the timescale for the plans, but say they are confident a deal will be concluded soon."
Any rumours on the grape vine about this?
It's a pity the mayor cant take a look at Murray Street in particular the Tile shop it's been left derelict for years with ugly boards around it.
Councillors promised to address this concern but as usual after the election their memories no longer function.
If we as residents complain we're seen as being racists toward the owner of this eyesore one. Mr Rasul.
Perhaps I should start a business selling Pink Paper - there seems to be a hell of a demand locally for it. ;)
Quote from: dangerman on June 14, 2012, 01: PM
If we as residents complain we're seen as being racists toward the owner of this eyesore one. Mr Rasul.
The reason it is derilict is the '10 quid a day' builders he was employing took down one of the load bearing walls and destroyed the buildings integrity. Now all he has to do is outwait the council and when they get sick of the trouble they will cave in and let him build some more flats to add to his 'bottom of the market' property portfolio.
He was (well he was 2 years ago) on a blacklist of the triaining companies in Hartlepool. You could always get a place 'working' for him but he never kept anyone on and continued to benefit from the free labour.
Incidently he was the victim of a rather large (money-wise) burglary a year or two back when he went to Pakistan for a relatives wedding. He put in a massive claim for all his wife's jewelry that went 'missing'.
I would advise the insurance company to get some of the wedding videos from Pakistan and check what she was wearing...................
Quote from: steveL on June 14, 2012, 02: PM
Perhaps I should start a business selling Pink Paper - there seems to be a hell of a demand locally for it. ;)
I have heard that the reason the SCAB family ID here is no longer in use is that the newly elected drones were a bit miffed that the official Labour line on local issues was being revealed to us in advance of them being informed..............
. . . are you suggesting that we have an influx of sheep that bark?
After 'Straight Talking' revealed (without engaging brain first) that very few of the labour lot believed the mayors Tall Ship figures....
illustrating that labour knew they were wrong but did nothing about the discrepancies....he has been told to stop playing politics on here. :-X
I suspect it was more to do with the football ground but with the whole town now being run from Owton Manor I doubt any protests will make much difference.
Quote from: Julie noted on June 14, 2012, 02: PM
he has been told to stop playing politics on here.
Sending out all those grant applications :
(would you like to contribute to my pet project before your planning application or afterwards?) has beffudled him!
I remember when he bought the co-op next to the odeon 25 years ago and set it on fire, sadly his insurance was void :D
Quote from: testicles on June 14, 2012, 06: PM
I remember when he bought the co-op next to the odeon 25 years ago and set it on fire, sadly his insurance was void :D
That was his father. Shortly afterwards the dad 'fled' home to Pakistan ( because of some investigation into an arson attack I believe)but unfortunately he got into a bit of trouble there and was shot in the leg. That is why he walks with a stick today.
Bad luck dogs the family. Didn't someone go and set fire to his historic Hartlepool building and the nice Council people gave him buckets of cash (250,000?) to put it right.
Can I introduce you two guys to the word 'allegedly' given that no one was charged or found guilty of anything
Quote from: steveL on June 14, 2012, 07: PM
Can I introduce you two guys to the word 'allegedly' given that no one was charged or found guilty of anything
I was careful. I knew there was no way I could write what I
know to be the facts.
'Wow' I never even dreamed such a can of worms would emerge from this, now I've learned that a similar fate fell on another of his properties in York Road near the Burn Valley Roundabout.
'Allegedly' caught fire.
It would appear he does not have much luck in business perhaps he should open a Pawn Brokers he certainly has the balls, 3 of them by what has been said.
Isn't this thread supposed to be about Jackson's Landing? ;D
There's something that doesn't quite add up about this deal. The Council buys the site and then sells it on to a developer supposedly for a small but significant profit. Does this not lead rather obviously to the question: why does the developer not buy from the current owners direct and save the middle-man's money?
Unfortunately, everything is being kept confidential so, not for the first time, the deal will be done in our name and using our money without any of us having any idea what the terms or the real situation actually is. It's the kind of arrangement that makes people like me wonder what exactly is going on here; what kind of nod and a wink negotiations are going on and who the 'behind the scenes' players really are.
Quote from: testing times on June 15, 2012, 12: PM
There's something that doesn't quite add up about this deal. The Council buys the site and then sells it on to a developer supposedly for a small but significant profit. Does this not lead rather obviously to the question: why does the developer not buy from the current owners direct and save the middle-man's money?
Unfortunately, everything is being kept confidential so, not for the first time, the deal will be done in our name and using our money without any of us having any idea what the terms or the real situation actually is. It's the kind of arrangement that makes people like me wonder what exactly is going on here; what kind of nod and a wink negotiations are going on and who the 'behind the scenes' players really are.
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Openess/Transparency/Accountability
Words that don`t appear to be in the Labour Councils vocabulary, drummond has mentioned a figure of around £2 Million & expects a 6 figure profit, will the profit made on the deal service the costs of the loan required to purchase the place.
Or are HBC laying out £2 million from their back pockets at a time of stringent cuts & pay freezes within the council ?
A matter of spin I suspect. The money is being borrowed so there will be interest to pay. It would be useful to know if the 'profit' on this deal takes into account the interest that will need to be paid on top of the administration costs of this whole business.
Quote from: dangerman on June 14, 2012, 01: PM
It's a pity the mayor cant take a look at Murray Street in particular the Tile shop it's been left derelict for years with ugly boards around it.
Never underestimate the power of the board
I went past tonight and all the old plywood panels have gone...............
Quote from: mk1 on June 16, 2012, 10: PM
Quote from: dangerman on June 14, 2012, 01: PM
It's a pity the mayor cant take a look at Murray Street in particular the Tile shop it's been left derelict for years with ugly boards around it.
Never underestimate the power of the board
I went past tonight and all the old plywood panels have gone...............
Must be time for a bonfire