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Title: The lurgy?
Post by: Lucy Lass-Tick on July 23, 2021, 09: PM
From the DT - will no doubt feature elsewhere in the media 'Parts of the North East of England are to be given extra Government support as the region continues to see some of the highest Covid-19 case rates in the country.

Seven local authorities across Tyne and Wear, Northumberland and County Durham, and five local authorities in the Tees Valley, will be recipients of the extra support.

It will start on Monday and last for five weeks, and includes the option to deliver extra testing in these targeted areas, the provision of logistical support to maximise vaccine and testing uptake, and further help for local public health campaigns.

Public health minister Jo Churchill said: "As the data changes it is vital that our public health response continues to change with it.

"By working in lockstep with local authorities and directors of public health, this additional support should help turn the tide on these growing case numbers and extend the wall of protection that vaccines is creating across the country.

"We all have a part to play in the continued fight against this virus and our message is a clear one: the best thing we can all do to protect ourselves and our loved ones is getting jabbed. If you haven't had your first or second doses, I'd urge you to book your vaccination at the first opportunity."

5:53pm
63pc of families uncomfortable with unvaccinated carers, survey finds
A recent survey by live-in care agency Elder found that 63 per cent of customers would feel comfortable being looked after by an unvaccinated carer, or having an unvaccinated carer look after a
Title: Re: The lurgy?
Post by: diSme on July 24, 2021, 01: AM
A poignant time to remember that positive cases do not equal ill people and/or deaths....

Also, "delivering extra testing" will further inflate the number of cases and potentially exacerbate the alleged hotbed of "lurgy" we are currently experiencing.....
Title: Re: The lurgy?
Post by: Topcat on July 24, 2021, 09: AM
I'm currently in self isolation with my wife due to both of us having positive PCR tests.I have done four LFT at home all of them negative,my wife has done three, two positive and the one in between negative. I have had absolutely no symptoms at all but my wife has had headaches and a bit of nausea plus feeling a bit "fluey" . We are both 72 and double jabbed so in our case it looks like the vaccine has done its job and we will be released from jail at midnight tonight.
Title: Re: The lurgy?
Post by: Inspector Knacker on July 24, 2021, 10: AM
Quote from: Lucy Lass-Tick on July 23, 2021, 09: PM

63pc of families uncomfortable with unvaccinated carers, survey finds
A recent survey by live-in care agency Elder found that 63 per cent of customers would feel comfortable being looked after by an unvaccinated carer, or having an unvaccinated carer look after a

Hardly surprising, but why are 'carers' allowed to carry on 'caring' if they're unvaccinated.
We don't employ blind airline pilots or toddlers as firefighters because it'd f***ing dangerous!! I'd put unvaccinated 'carers' in the same category.
Title: Re: The lurgy?
Post by: diSme on July 24, 2021, 11: AM
Quote from: Inspector Knacker on July 24, 2021, 10: AM
Quote from: Lucy Lass-Tick on July 23, 2021, 09: PM

63pc of families uncomfortable with unvaccinated carers, survey finds
A recent survey by live-in care agency Elder found that 63 per cent of customers would feel comfortable being looked after by an unvaccinated carer, or having an unvaccinated carer look after a

Hardly surprising, but why are 'carers' allowed to carry on 'caring' if they're unvaccinated.
We don't employ blind airline pilots or toddlers as firefighters because it'd f***ing dangerous!! I'd put unvaccinated 'carers' in the same category.
Moot argument. The vaccines do not stop or prevent transmission.
Title: Re: The lurgy?
Post by: Inspector Knacker on July 24, 2021, 01: PM
No....but they do reduce the severity of the virus massively.
So called 'carers' who are obviously quite prepared to risk their patients health for whatever reason shouldn't be in the job and all because they won't be vaccinated.
Title: Re: The lurgy?
Post by: diSme on July 24, 2021, 02: PM
Quote from: Inspector Knacker on July 24, 2021, 01: PM
No....but they do reduce the severity of the virus massively.
So called 'carers' who are obviously quite prepared to risk their patients health for whatever reason shouldn't be in the job and all because they won't be vaccinated.
Again, (to the best of my knowledge) that's a moot point.

As far as I'm aware, carers who do not have the vaccine will not be risking their patients health in anyway whatsoever.....

Perhaps missing I am something though? I am open to information that shows otherwise?
Title: Re: The lurgy?
Post by: Lucy Lass-Tick on July 24, 2021, 09: PM
As I understand it, it may well reduce the viral load (at the very least).
Title: Re: The lurgy?
Post by: Inspector Knacker on July 24, 2021, 09: PM
I suspect you're being rather pedantic about this point.
If unvaccinated people present no problem why have we had a massive vaccination programme....?
Let's apply good old down to earth common sense and forget the theoretical considerations.
What you're advocating is like saying there's hundreds of Great White sharks off Seaton beach but they haven't eaten anyone yet, so logically they're completely harmless .....while ignoring that that's because no one will go in the water while they're there.
Title: Re: The lurgy?
Post by: diSme on July 24, 2021, 10: PM
Quote from: Inspector Knacker on July 24, 2021, 09: PM
I suspect you're being rather pedantic about this point.
If unvaccinated people present no problem why have we had a massive vaccination programme....?
Let's apply good old down to earth common sense and forget the theoretical considerations.
What you're advocating is like saying there's hundreds of Great White sharks off Seaton beach but they haven't eaten anyone yet, so logically they're completely harmless .....while ignoring that that's because no one will go in the water while they're there.
This forum has a lengthy history of pedantry, of which you have often been a part!!

For years politicians have been called out on here for their illogical decisions. Yet here we are now, faced with a seemingly illogical decision, that has huge ramifications, yet you appear to be backing up that decision, even though it defies the logic of the information that has been made available to us?? Why the sudden U-turn?

What you appear to be saying is that the care staff should be vaccinated regardless of their own personal wishes, thoughts, or concerns, even though there is no evidence to suggest that having those staff vaccinated will offer any extra protection to the people under their care.....

Are you actually able to (preferably without using another moot and irrelevant comparison) defy the logic of my point?
Title: Re: The lurgy?
Post by: Inspector Knacker on July 24, 2021, 11: PM
In this instance ..... yes. It's a no brainer.
Title: Re: The lurgy?
Post by: diSme on July 25, 2021, 12: AM
Quote from: Inspector Knacker on July 24, 2021, 11: PM
In this instance ..... yes. It's a no brainer.
Well, that clarifies that then......  ???

That's basically a 'because I said so' response.
Title: Re: The lurgy?
Post by: Inspector Knacker on July 25, 2021, 06: AM
Look, like two  dreadnoughts firing marshmallow shells at each other, we're not going to make a dent in each other's viewpoint, so let's leave it at that . ;D
Title: Re: The lurgy?
Post by: akarjl2 on July 25, 2021, 12: PM
Quote from: diSme on July 25, 2021, 12: AM
Quote from: Inspector Knacker on July 24, 2021, 11: PM
In this instance ..... yes. It's a no brainer.
Well, that clarifies that then......  ???

That's basically a 'because I said so' response.

I find it all a bit odd. When I first went to sea in 1974 you had to have Cholera, Yellow Fever jabs and take anti malarial tablets.

If you were not prepared to do so then you were not employed.

If you were joining a ship that was bound for a port requiring Yellow fever jabs and were not prepared to have the jab then you were removed from the vessel and sacked.

If you work in an industry were you come into close contact with others you should be required to have the jabs. Or loose your job.

As stated the jabs do to prevent infection but they significantly reduce the effects it would appear, reducing the need for hospilization and possible ICU. You can still get covid and feel like sh**e for a week but you probably won't die.

So what right do these muppets and ethnic minorities have to risk clogging up the NHS system and beds taking valuable resources away from operations etc? Why because the likes of David Icke ( who lets remember advises us the queen is a lizard) thinks along with wearing a tin foil hat covid is a conspiracy to control us? Or that there is a conspiracy to kill off certain ethnic groups? In Londanistan these groups seem to be managing that fine themselves without any government assistance.

Speak to someone who's choking to death in ICU after "declining" a vaccination .

The divvies who with their CSE in woodwork know better than a professor of medicine will hopefully slowly catch it and die quickly- a form of natural selection.

Unfortunately they also place others at risk.

It should be no jab? Your choice....

No entry to shops bars restaurants
No Public transport, flights or ferries
No sporting events

and...no NHS treatment.

Title: Re: The lurgy?
Post by: Inspector Knacker on July 25, 2021, 05: PM
Quote from: akarjl2 on July 25, 2021, 12: PM
Quote from: diSme on July 25, 2021, 12: AM
Quote from: Inspector Knacker on July 24, 2021, 11: PM
In this instance ..... yes. It's a no brainer.
Well, that clarifies that then......  ???

That's basically a 'because I said so' response.

I find it all a bit odd. When I first went to sea in 1974 you had to have Cholera, Yellow Fever jabs and take anti malarial tablets.

If you were not prepared to do so then you were not employed.

If you were joining a ship that was bound for a port requiring Yellow fever jabs and were not prepared to have the jab then you were removed from the vessel and sacked.

If you work in an industry were you come into close contact with others you should be required to have the jabs. Or loose your job.

I used to be responsible for inspecting nucleonic devices on a regular basis. When I first reported there was this procedure that appeared to me a bit over the top. I asked the big man if it was all really necessary.
He replied " ...if you don't want to do it, you can ride out on the horse you rode in on!!'.
I complied. ;D
Title: Re: The lurgy?
Post by: diSme on July 25, 2021, 06: PM
Quote from: akarjl2 on July 25, 2021, 12: PM
Quote from: diSme on July 25, 2021, 12: AM
Quote from: Inspector Knacker on July 24, 2021, 11: PM
In this instance ..... yes. It's a no brainer.
Well, that clarifies that then......  ???

That's basically a 'because I said so' response.

I find it all a bit odd. When I first went to sea in 1974 you had to have Cholera, Yellow Fever jabs and take anti malarial tablets.

If you were not prepared to do so then you were not employed.

If you were joining a ship that was bound for a port requiring Yellow fever jabs and were not prepared to have the jab then you were removed from the vessel and sacked.

If you work in an industry were you come into close contact with others you should be required to have the jabs. Or loose your job.

As stated the jabs do to prevent infection but they significantly reduce the effects it would appear, reducing the need for hospilization and possible ICU. You can still get covid and feel like sh**e for a week but you probably won't die.

So what right do these muppets and ethnic minorities have to risk clogging up the NHS system and beds taking valuable resources away from operations etc? Why because the likes of David Icke ( who lets remember advises us the queen is a lizard) thinks along with wearing a tin foil hat covid is a conspiracy to control us? Or that there is a conspiracy to kill off certain ethnic groups? In Londanistan these groups seem to be managing that fine themselves without any government assistance.

Speak to someone who's choking to death in ICU after "declining" a vaccination .

The divvies who with their CSE in woodwork know better than a professor of medicine will hopefully slowly catch it and die quickly- a form of natural selection.

Unfortunately they also place others at risk.

It should be no jab? Your choice....

No entry to shops bars restaurants
No Public transport, flights or ferries
No sporting events

and...no NHS treatment.
That's another irrelevant argument to the current point of contention.

You said yourself it doesn't prevent infection, so by definition it isn't even actually a vaccine, but that's another discussion entirely.

Care workers who have not been vaccinated present no further risk to patients than care workers who have been vaccinated. That seems to be an inescapable, inarguable fact, as things currently stand. Whether they clog up the NHS or whatever, because of their choice to not be vaccinated is irrelevant. The fact remains that they present no extra risk to the patients in their care....
Title: Re: The lurgy?
Post by: Inspector Knacker on July 25, 2021, 09: PM
So why have we had a massive vaccination campaign?
If there was no vaccine where would we be now ?
So the medical experts can safely be ignored ?
Are you double vaccinated?
Title: Re: The lurgy?
Post by: diSme on July 25, 2021, 09: PM
Quote from: Inspector Knacker on July 25, 2021, 09: PM
So why have we had a massive vaccination campaign?
Irrelevant to the point I am making about care workers being forced to be vaccinated.

Quote from: Inspector Knacker on July 25, 2021, 09: PM
If there was no vaccine where would we be now ?
I don't know, I am not blessed with the ability to see into alternate realities.

Quote from: Inspector Knacker on July 25, 2021, 09: PM
So the medical experts can safely be ignored ?
I'm questioning the political decision, not the medical experts. The medical experts have provided no proof (that I am aware of) that vaccinating care workers will help protect patients under their care... Please enlighten me if they have?

Quote from: Inspector Knacker on July 25, 2021, 09: PM
Are you double vaccinated?
That's my business.
Title: Re: The lurgy?
Post by: Inspector Knacker on July 25, 2021, 10: PM
Every questioned swerved. Game over. ;D
Title: Re: The lurgy?
Post by: diSme on July 25, 2021, 10: PM
Quote from: Inspector Knacker on July 25, 2021, 10: PM
Every questioned swerved. Game over. ;D
I'm not swerving at all? I am literally asking you for the evidence that supports the political decision that has been made to force the care workers to be vaccinated or lose their jobs.

There clearly isn't any is there??
Title: Re: The lurgy?
Post by: Inspector Knacker on July 25, 2021, 11: PM
I suspect this is little to do with the medical aspect and more to do with political dogma.
I'll trust the experts every time, the 'theories' of the 'bloke in the pub' have little relevance to reality.
Title: Re: The lurgy?
Post by: diSme on July 26, 2021, 12: AM
Quote from: Inspector Knacker on July 25, 2021, 11: PM
I suspect this is little to do with the medical aspect and more to do with political dogma.
I'll trust the experts every time, the 'theories' of the 'bloke in the pub' have little relevance to reality.
And you tried to call me out for "swerving" ???

This is a political forum is it not? Are we not all here to air our political grievances and views? Why is that an issue all of a sudden?

I haven't once mentioned "theories" of "blokes in the pub", or anything whatsoever to do with that crank Icke and his lizards or whatever, yet I feel like I am getting labelled as such, purely for trying to question and ask for the medical facts that support the political decision that has been made.....

Don't try and make me out to be something I am not.

I am yet to see a logical argument that supports the policy. That is all I am asking for.... If you can't provide one, then just say so....
Title: Re: The lurgy?
Post by: Inspector Knacker on July 26, 2021, 06: AM
I get the distinct impression from your dogged rearguard action that you find the whole COVID thing a big fuss over nothing....big girls flu?
Most people are happy to get their two jabs and proud to tell you ...... I suspect you declined.
Title: Re: The lurgy?
Post by: akarjl2 on July 26, 2021, 07: AM
Quote from: diSme on July 25, 2021, 09: PM

Quote from: Inspector Knacker on July 25, 2021, 09: PM
Are you double vaccinated?
That's my business.

aka Yes.
Title: Re: The lurgy?
Post by: Inspector Knacker on July 26, 2021, 08: AM
I suppose it is hard to argue against it if you've had both jabs. That's if.....
Title: Re: The lurgy?
Post by: Lucy Lass-Tick on July 26, 2021, 11: AM
My mother died in January - with Covid. She was staying in a care home for rehab. following a fall which left her completely immobile until the physio did its job. The staff were on the verge of being vaccinated - as were the residents - but (unfortunately) none of this happened in time. The entire staff became ill with Covid and 20% of the residents  died. So, if they'd all been jabbed earlier the worst of this could have been avoided. Enough said?
Title: Re: The lurgy?
Post by: Grumblstiltskin on July 27, 2021, 02: PM
Quote from: diSme on July 26, 2021, 12: AM

And you tried to call me out for "swerving" ???

This is a political forum is it not? Are we not all here to air our political grievances and views? Why is that an issue all of a sudden?

I haven't once mentioned "theories" of "blokes in the pub", or anything whatsoever to do with that crank Icke and his lizards or whatever, yet I feel like I am getting labelled as such, purely for trying to question and ask for the medical facts that support the political decision that has been made.....

Don't try and make me out to be something I am not.

I am yet to see a logical argument that supports the policy. That is all I am asking for.... If you can't provide one, then just say so....

What seems to be very common at the moment right across the interweb is the seemingly now acceptable trend of mentioning the "bloke down the pub" or questioning the sanity/intelligence/selfishness of people who question the Jab.

First it was "mask shaming", now it is jab shaming, with anybody who questions the jab instantly labelled as a conspiracy theorist with a m**r*n level IQ who gets all their facts from some bozo down the pub or off online conspiracy theorists.

It seems to be a practice amongst the jabbed but the unjabbed seem to quote facts rather than resort to personal abuse. The laughable thing is now that some of ideas of the so called nut-job theorists now seem to be coming true.

It is, and always should be, personal choice to be injected with a brand new, never used on humans, genetically engineered mRNA carried material.

If the vaccine was a standard vaccine, inactivated virus, I'm sure no one would be objecting and queuing up for the vaccine.
Title: Re: The lurgy?
Post by: Inspector Knacker on July 27, 2021, 07: PM
Have you had the two jabs?
Title: Re: The lurgy?
Post by: Lucy Lass-Tick on July 27, 2021, 10: PM
I've been 'AstraZeneca'd' twice. Zero side effects.  Well, apart from growing a second head ...  :o ;D
Title: Re: The lurgy?
Post by: Inspector Knacker on July 27, 2021, 10: PM
I had the Pfeizer one and have  now finally grown a head...... of lettuce! it came out of my shoulder blades as a small green shoot, so rushed to Urgent Care and the Doc said it could be the just tip of the iceberg.
I'll go now.
Title: Re: The lurgy?
Post by: akarjl2 on July 28, 2021, 06: AM
Quote from: Grumblstiltskin on July 27, 2021, 02: PM
anybody who questions the jab instantly labelled as a conspiracy theorist with a m**r*n level IQ who gets all their facts from some bozo down the pub or off online conspiracy theorists.

Sounds about right.

QuoteIt is, and always should be, personal choice to be injected with a brand new, never used on humans, genetically engineered mRNA carried material.

It is. It is also a personal choice of mine not to want to be anywhere near anyone who's daft enough not to accept a vaccine.

QuoteIf the vaccine was a standard vaccine, inactivated virus

https://www.nhsinform.scot/covid-19-vaccine/the-vaccines/how-the-vaccines-work (https://www.nhsinform.scot/covid-19-vaccine/the-vaccines/how-the-vaccines-work)

QuoteYour body's response to a vaccine is similar to when it encounters a natural infection, but it is safer to gain protection from a disease by taking a vaccine because the vaccines do not contain a live virus and cannot cause disease.

The vaccines cannot change your DNA.

Get the jab...or die
Title: Re: The lurgy?
Post by: Inspector Knacker on July 28, 2021, 09: AM
Why, when you ask the simple question have you had your two jabs of the Vaccine Luddites do you never get an answer.......it's simple really, if you say you have had them, then you're an hypocrite. If you say you haven't, you're in the conspiracy theorist camp where we're all being programmed to obey.
Title: Re: The lurgy?
Post by: diSme on July 29, 2021, 02: PM
A summary of the prevailing lack of logic....


"ME: UK gov, should I get vaccinated if I already had Covid?

UK gov: "Yes, you should be vaccinated regardless of whether you already had C0VID-19. That's because experts do not yet know how long you are protected from getting sick again after recovering from C0VID-19."

ME: Oh, okay, we don't know how long natural immunity lasts. Got it. So, how long does vaccine-induced immunity last?

Uk gov: "There is still a lot we are learning about C0VID-l9 vaccines and we are constantly reviewing evidence and updating guidance. We don't know how long protection lasts for those who are vaccinated."

Me: Okay ... but wait a second. I thought you said the reason I need the vaccine was because we don't know how long my natural immunity lasts, but it seems like you're saying we ALSO don't know how long vaccine immunity lasts either. So, how exactly is the vaccine immunity better than my natural immunity?

UK gov: ...

Me: Uh ... alright. But, haven't there been a bunch of studies suggesting that natural immunity could last for years or decades?

UK gov: Yes. Years, maybe even decades, according to a new study.

ME: Ah. So natural immunity might last longer than vaccine immunity?

Uk gov: Possibly. You never know.

ME: Okay. If I get the vaccine, does that mean I won't get sick?

Uk gov: Nope. We are just now entering a seasonal spike and about half of our infections and hospital admissions are vaccinated people.

ME: is this true? Are there a lot of people in the U.K. catching Covid after getting the jab?

David Javid: Over 60%

ME: Oh, okay. Hmm. Well, if I can still get sick after I get the vaccine, how is it helping me?

Uk gov: We never said you wouldn't get sick. We said it would reduce your chances of serious illness or death.

ME: Oh, sorry. Alright, exactly how much does it reduce my chance of serious illness or death.

Uk gov: We don't know "exactly, we think we've saved over 50,000 lives, but we haven't got any evidence of this.

ME: Oh. Then what's your best estimate for how much risk reduction there is?

Uk gov: We don't know, okay? Next question.

ME: Um, if I'm healthy and don't want the vaccine, is there any reason I should get it?

Uk gov: Yes, for the collective and to be allowed to dance at a night club (for now)

ME: How does the collective benefit from me getting vaccinated?

Uk gov: Because you could spread the virus to someone else who might get sick and die.

ME: Can a vaccinated person spread the virus to someone else?

Uk gov: Yes.

ME: So if I get vaccinated, I could still spread the virus to someone else?

Uk gov: Yes.

ME: But I thought you just said, the REASON I should get vaccinated was to prevent me spreading the virus? How does that make sense if I can still catch Covid and spread it after getting the vaccine?

Uk gov: Never mind that. The other thing is, if you stay unvaccinated, there's a chance the virus could possibly mutate into a strain that escapes the vaccine's protection, putting all vaccinated people at risk.

ME: So the vaccine stops the virus from mutating?

Uk gov: No.

ME: So it can still mutate in vaccinated people?

Uk gov: Yes.

ME: Sorry but this seems confusing. If the vaccine doesn't stop mutations, and it doesn't stop infections, then how does me getting vaccinated help prevent a more deadly strain from evolving to escape the vaccine?

Uk gov: You aren't listening, okay? The bottom line is: as long as you are unvaccinated, you pose a threat to vaccinated people.

ME: But what KIND of threat??

Uk gov: The threat that they could get a serious case of Covid and possibly die.

ME: My brain hurts. Didn't you JUST say that the vaccine doesn't keep people from catching Covid, but prevents a serious case or dying? Now it seems like you're saying vaccinated people can still easily die from Covid even after they got the vaccine just by running into an unvaccinated person! Which is it??

Uk gov: Your just obviously an anti-vaxxer!

ME: Wait! I just want to make sure I understand all this. So, even if I ALREADY had Covid, I should STILL get vaccinated, because we don't know how long natural immunity lasts, and we also don't know how long vaccine immunity lasts. And I should get the vaccine to keep a vaccinated person from catching Covid from me, but even if I get the vaccine, I can give it to the vaccinated person anyways. And, the other vaccinated person can still easily catch a serious case of Covid from me and die. Do I have all that right?"


Logical thinking is now a fringe activity......
Title: Re: The lurgy?
Post by: eddy on July 29, 2021, 03: PM
Love coming on here to be reminded how racist my home town is.

E.g., its all those brown people in Londonistan fault.  Maybe we could get Enoch Powell for the new logo,

Anecdotally, I got way more white mates on social media bleeding anti vax crap than any of the brown coloured ones.  Quite happy to ram whatever the hell white powder up their nose in the toilets of Vibes of a weekend too, oh the irony. 
Title: Re: The lurgy?
Post by: diSme on July 29, 2021, 04: PM
Quote from: eddy on July 29, 2021, 03: PM
Love coming on here to be reminded how racist my home town is.

E.g., its all those brown people in Londonistan fault.  Maybe we could get Enoch Powell for the new logo,

Anecdotally, I got way more white mates on social media bleeding anti vax crap than any of the brown coloured ones.  Quite happy to ram whatever the hell white powder up their nose in the toilets of Vibes of a weekend too, oh the irony.
Lol, not quite sure where race comes into the topic/discussion so far???

Only seems to be you that's brought it up,, unless perhaps I have missed something.......?
Title: Re: The lurgy?
Post by: akarjl2 on July 29, 2021, 04: PM
Quote from: diSme on July 29, 2021, 04: PM
Quote from: eddy on July 29, 2021, 03: PM
Love coming on here to be reminded how racist my home town is.

E.g., its all those brown people in Londonistan fault.  Maybe we could get Enoch Powell for the new logo,

Anecdotally, I got way more white mates on social media bleeding anti vax crap than any of the brown coloured ones.  Quite happy to ram whatever the hell white powder up their nose in the toilets of Vibes of a weekend too, oh the irony.
Lol, not quite sure where race comes into the topic/discussion so far???

Only seems to be you that's brought it up,, unless perhaps I have missed something.......?

Kettle..frying pan???
Title: Re: The lurgy?
Post by: diSme on July 29, 2021, 07: PM
Quote from: akarjl2 on July 29, 2021, 04: PM
Quote from: diSme on July 29, 2021, 04: PM
Quote from: eddy on July 29, 2021, 03: PM
Love coming on here to be reminded how racist my home town is.

E.g., its all those brown people in Londonistan fault.  Maybe we could get Enoch Powell for the new logo,

Anecdotally, I got way more white mates on social media bleeding anti vax crap than any of the brown coloured ones.  Quite happy to ram whatever the hell white powder up their nose in the toilets of Vibes of a weekend too, oh the irony.
Lol, not quite sure where race comes into the topic/discussion so far???

Only seems to be you that's brought it up,, unless perhaps I have missed something.......?

Kettle..frying pan???
Are you accusing me of some form of racial vitriol?
Title: Re: The lurgy?
Post by: Inspector Knacker on July 29, 2021, 08: PM
If he is blaming you, I don't know what he's basing it on.
Title: Re: The lurgy?
Post by: diSme on July 29, 2021, 09: PM
Quote from: Inspector Knacker on July 29, 2021, 08: PM
If he is blaming you, I don't know what he's basing it on.
Thank you.

I suspect it could well have been a misquote on akarjl2's behalf....

Title: Re: The lurgy?
Post by: akarjl2 on July 30, 2021, 06: AM
nope sorry DiSme...quotes in wrong place

QuoteQuote from: eddy on July 29, 2021, 03: PM
Love coming on here to be reminded how racist my home town is.

E.g., its all those brown people in Londonistan fault.  Maybe we could get Enoch Powell for the new logo,

Anecdotally, I got way more white mates on social media bleeding anti vax crap than any of the brown coloured ones.  Quite happy to ram whatever the hell white powder up their nose in the toilets of Vibes of a weekend too, oh the irony.

My point was the only person mentioning "Brown people" was Eddy. Nobody else even thought about that it seemed to me.

I really need to keep off here. It is going nowhere......
Title: Re: The lurgy?
Post by: Tee_Ess_25er on July 30, 2021, 08: AM
Quote from: akarjl2 on July 29, 2021, 04: PM
Kettle..frying pan???

If this is in reference to the saying 'The Pot calling the Kettle black', I would use it with caution.  It seems now that a lot of idio people see this saying as racist because it uses the word black and not understanding how cast iron looks.
Title: Re: The lurgy?
Post by: Inspector Knacker on July 30, 2021, 08: AM
If they even know what cast iron is.
Title: Re: The lurgy?
Post by: admin on July 30, 2021, 11: AM
How on earth did a discussion about Covid morph into one discussing racism? The next member who starts on that nonsense will regret it!
Title: Re: The lurgy?
Post by: Inspector Knacker on July 30, 2021, 01: PM
Covtanic is sinking, the last lifeboat is about to cast off, there remains a single figure who will not get into the lifeboat. The bosun shouts up to him to get in as the ship is going down.

Bosun, "Jump aboard Sir, or you'll drown".

Man,  " Has this lifeboat been tested? "

Bosun  " Yes, just get in please"

Man     " To what standard?"

Bosun   "Board of Trade reg 143/ 665b, now get in pleeeese".

Man        " What wood was used in it's construction?"

Bosun      "Teak!!!!"

Man.        " Where was the teak from?

Bosun       "India sir, are you getting in?"

Man.         "Have you got a copy of it's maintenance record?"

Bosun       "Look, just get in and you can read it c'mon please"

Man          " Not until I've read the maintenance rec....gurgle, gurgle, gurrrrrrgle........

Bosun       " You just can't help some people".

Title: Re: The lurgy?
Post by: Lucy Lass-Tick on July 30, 2021, 04: PM
Quote from: Inspector Knacker on July 30, 2021, 01: PM
Covtanic is sinking, the last lifeboat is about to cast off, there remains a single figure who will not get into the lifeboat. The bosun shouts up to him to get in as the ship is going down.

Bosun, "Jump aboard Sir, or you'll drown".

Man,  " Has this lifeboat been tested? "

Bosun  " Yes, just get in please"

Man     " To what standard?"

Bosun   "Board of Trade reg 143/ 665b, now get in pleeeese".

Man        " What wood was used in it's construction?"

Bosun      "Teak!!!!"

Man.        " Where was the teak from?

Bosun       "India sir, are you getting in?"

Man.         "Have you got a copy of it's maintenance record?"

Bosun       "Look, just get in and you can read it c'mon please"

Man          " Not until I've read the maintenance rec....gurgle, gurgle, gurrrrrrgle........

Bosun       " You just can't help some people".

The whole scenario just flashed before my eyes ..  :D
Title: Re: The lurgy?
Post by: diSme on July 30, 2021, 05: PM
Quote from: Inspector Knacker on July 30, 2021, 01: PM
Covtanic is sinking, the last lifeboat is about to cast off, there remains a single figure who will not get into the lifeboat. The bosun shouts up to him to get in as the ship is going down.

Bosun, "Jump aboard Sir, or you'll drown".

Man,  " Has this lifeboat been tested? "

Bosun  " Yes, just get in please"

Man     " To what standard?"

Bosun   "Board of Trade reg 143/ 665b, now get in pleeeese".

Man        " What wood was used in it's construction?"

Bosun      "Teak!!!!"

Man.        " Where was the teak from?

Bosun       "India sir, are you getting in?"

Man.         "Have you got a copy of it's maintenance record?"

Bosun       "Look, just get in and you can read it c'mon please"

Man          " Not until I've read the maintenance rec....gurgle, gurgle, gurrrrrrgle........

Bosun       " You just can't help some people".
Tenuous comparison at best!!! (IMO)

I'm not looking to clash heads with, or offend anyone here.

Our opinions on the covid/vaccine issue evidently differ, which is fine. We have all had differing experiences relating to it over these past months, so the difference of overall opinion is to be expected.

I do genuinely sympathise with those who have had negative experiences (I have had my own), and I don't desire to touch any raw nerves.

Given that, I'm happy to drop the topic and reply no further on the issue,  however if others continue and post contentions with which I disagree, I will continue to state my point....

Perhaps it might be better for an admin to close this thread, and we can all focus on more local grievances, issues, and matters, as per the sub-forum title? (like brown bin collection frequency, and weedkilling!! ;D)

Just a suggestion.....
Title: Re: The lurgy?
Post by: akarjl2 on July 30, 2021, 06: PM
FFS Kettle was black from the BLOODY SOOT from a fire!!

Im out- boards just turned plain stupid - please terminate my membership.

Best of luck to all.
Title: Re: The lurgy?
Post by: Lucy Lass-Tick on July 30, 2021, 08: PM
Quote from: akarjl2 on July 30, 2021, 06: PM
FFS Kettle was black from the BLOODY SOOT from a fire!!

Im out- boards just turned plain stupid - please terminate my membership.

Best of luck to all.

Do hope that you have second thoughts - your input has been most valued.
Title: Re: The lurgy?
Post by: diSme on July 30, 2021, 08: PM
Quote from: akarjl2 on July 30, 2021, 06: PM
FFS Kettle was black from the BLOODY SOOT from a fire!!

Im out- boards just turned plain stupid - please terminate my membership.

Best of luck to all.
I don't think anyone was having a go at you mate once that initial misunderstanding was cleared up. It was that other guy who tried to take it off on a racial tangent, clearly not yourself....


I apologise for not directly responding to your comment where you clarified your misquote -

Quote from: akarjl2 on July 30, 2021, 06: AM
nope sorry DiSme...quotes in wrong place

QuoteQuote from: eddy on July 29, 2021, 03: PM
Love coming on here to be reminded how racist my home town is.

E.g., its all those brown people in Londonistan fault.  Maybe we could get Enoch Powell for the new logo,

Anecdotally, I got way more white mates on social media bleeding anti vax crap than any of the brown coloured ones.  Quite happy to ram whatever the hell white powder up their nose in the toilets of Vibes of a weekend too, oh the irony.

My point was the only person mentioning "Brown people" was Eddy. Nobody else even thought about that it seemed to me.

I really need to keep off here. It is going nowhere......


I agree with loose-knickers, your input here is valued......
Title: Re: The lurgy?
Post by: Inspector Knacker on July 30, 2021, 08: PM
Quote from: akarjl2 on July 30, 2021, 06: PM
FFS Kettle was black from the BLOODY SOOT from a fire!!

Im out- boards just turned plain stupid - please terminate my membership.

Best of luck to all.
Oh no you're not. There's a job to be done. ;)
Title: Re: The lurgy?
Post by: Inspector Knacker on July 31, 2021, 08: PM
Quote from: eddy on July 29, 2021, 03: PM
Love coming on here to be reminded how racist my home town is.

So just how 'racist' is Hartlepool, assuming it is your home town ?

E.g., its all those brown people in Londonistan fault.  Maybe we could get Enoch Powell for the new logo,

'We'....... why would you and your friends want a new logo?

Anecdotally, I got way more white mates on social media bleeding anti vax crap than any of the brown coloured ones.

As you appear to be keeping statistics, what's the approximate ratio?   

Quite happy to ram whatever the hell white powder up their nose in the toilets of Vibes of a weekend too, oh the irony.

I' ll take your word for it as you appear to be Johnny on the spot.
Title: Re: The lurgy?
Post by: diSme on July 31, 2021, 09: PM
Quote from: Inspector Knacker on July 31, 2021, 08: PM
Quote from: eddy on July 29, 2021, 03: PM
Love coming on here to be reminded how racist my home town is.

So just how 'racist' is Hartlepool, assuming it is your home town ?

E.g., its all those brown people in Londonistan fault.  Maybe we could get Enoch Powell for the new logo,

'We'....... why would you and your friends want a new logo?

Anecdotally, I got way more white mates on social media bleeding anti vax crap than any of the brown coloured ones.

As you appear to be keeping statistics, what's the approximate ratio?   

Quite happy to ram whatever the hell white powder up their nose in the toilets of Vibes of a weekend too, oh the irony.

I' ll take your word for it as you appear to be Johnny on the spot.
Ah mate, just leave it be. You'll upset the admin.

I think everyone agrees eddy was out of order, and he's been put on pre-mod...
Title: Re: The lurgy?
Post by: Inspector Knacker on July 31, 2021, 09: PM
It was unnecessary...but I'll take your advice ;)
Title: Re: The lurgy?
Post by: akarjl2 on August 02, 2021, 05: PM
Quote from: Lucy Lass-Tick on July 30, 2021, 08: PM
Quote from: akarjl2 on July 30, 2021, 06: PM
FFS Kettle was black from the BLOODY SOOT from a fire!!

Im out- boards just turned plain stupid - please terminate my membership.

Best of luck to all.

Do hope that you have second thoughts - your input has been most valued.

Thank you however I am not comfortable with some of the woke clowns on here and do not wish to engage with them please delete my account. Thank you.
Title: Re: The lurgy?
Post by: akarjl2 on August 08, 2021, 06: AM
Again thank you but as previously requested please close my account.
Title: Re: The lurgy?
Post by: Lucy Lass-Tick on August 08, 2021, 08: AM
Quote from: akarjl2 on August 08, 2021, 06: AM
Again thank you but as previously requested please close my account.

For technical reasons, an admin. can't close a member's account - only ban them (which is the last thing we want to do).
Title: Re: The lurgy?
Post by: akarjl2 on August 10, 2021, 06: AM
Understood
Title: Re: The lurgy?
Post by: Inspector Knacker on August 10, 2021, 06: PM
Have a think about it. ;)
Title: Re: The lurgy?
Post by: akarjl2 on August 12, 2021, 06: AM
Quote from: Inspector Knacker on August 10, 2021, 06: PM
Have a think about it. ;)

I have. Sent you a PM. Im off to remove some of that non white dark substance from some cooking utensils, assuming the woke brigade allow me to disturb historic artefacts.