Alternatives to UKIP?

[fred c]

Having just read the Mails article about the Long Held Belief that the hospital at Wynyard won`t now go ahead............ And looking back at the pre-election B***s**t promise by the flaccid "Member"


We should all forget our individual utopian political ideals..............

And get together to Vote out the present "Member"....if that means UKIP then so be it.

[beanzontoast]

Mark1 I was not ranting on about socialism - communism as you imply I'm meerly stating a fact and I never mentioned Stallin you did which is quite a surprise really as many socialists don't like to be reminded or should I say inform those who always vote Labour that  Labours real allegiance is to communist ideals and leaders, what amuses me is how they can't see it, I mean in Hartlepool for instance the civic centre is in communist red brick, Ed Milliband openly acknowledges he is a Marksist, and at the end of every Labour conference they sing the red flag which is a communist anthem, even that wasn't a rant just facts, and to continue on the debate what have the socialists done to the Welsh NHS its a disaster, one of Ed Millibands heroes is the socialist  french prime minister france is a basket case of an economy, and it could be coming to a country near you.

[steveL]

There's a quite famous story about Uncle Joe Stalin within the Civic.

Carl Richardson was once in the back seat of a car with another councillor on the way to somewhere or other. Carl, who it's said, used to have a picture of Uncle Joe on the wall of his office when he was Chair of the Council, was espousing all the achievements of Stalin. His fellow councillor disagreed saying that it wasn't possible to praise the achievements of a man who had murdered 20 million of his own people.

"That's a blatant lie put about by The West, " said Carl, "it was only eight million."

I guess everything is relative, as they say.   

[DRiddle]

That's one of my favourite HBC related stories.
Although I think my personal all time favourite is the one about replacing the 200 year old trees.
That'll take some beating for utter stupidity.

Still, give her time . . .

[crisstw]

Although I think my personal all time favourite is the one about replacing the 200 year old trees.
That'll take some beating for utter stupidity.

I've not heard this one, care to share it please ?

[mk1]

I mean in Hartlepool for instance the civic centre is in communist red brick

I am tempted to think you meant this as a joke but given the rest of your post I think you really believe it.

[beanzontoast]

Mk1 I have meerly brought the statment up for oxygen,  and as a possibility  even the locals call it the Kremlin, I personally like nothing better than jigsaw puzzles  at first you cant tell what it is but as you build it up  you see it some jigsaws you don't want to finish as it wont be at all what I thought it would be, from the observations of another to the forum how many of his own people did Stallin kill was it 20 millions or just 8 millions.  What no comments on the socialist management of the Welsh NHS. Or the french economy run by another socialist.

[mk1]

how many of his own people did Stallin kill was it 20 millions or just 8 millions.  .

Seeing as I have no desire to go down this road or confuse you as you are way out of your depth here (do you include Holodomor deaths as Stalins victims and are you one of the right-wing people who attribute  all the Soviets WW2 deaths to Stalin not Hitler)and I want to keep it simple. Anyone who today starts claiming Socialism=Communism= Stalinism is an idiot. Plain and simple. Cold was  paranoi and 1950's slogans do not fit well in our modern world.
You seem to be stuck in 50's a time-warp.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EsCyC1dZiN8&list=RDEsCyC1dZiN8

[steveL]

If memory serves me well this was to do with the planning application to build houses next to the Raby Arms. There was a problem with 200 year old trees on the site and Marjorie James asked  "can't we just move them".

She's come up with a few corkers in her time. There was another instance when I think the Mayfair Centre wanted to put up new neon signage. Marj was against the idea as she thought that it would confuse shipping and oil tankers would end up on Seaton beach.

She must have read Jamaica Inn at some stage.

[mk1]

She must have read Jamaica Inn at some stage.

Only if it was serialised in the  'Socialist Worker'

[mk1]

  What no comments on the socialist management of the Welsh NHS. Or the french economy run by another socialist.

Do you have any comment on the infant mortality rate in the USA as compared to Socialist Cuba?
Please share your excuses.

In the current Ebola crisis which nation is doing the most to help?



Try this:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-latin-america-29732291

Cuba is now the biggest single provider of healthcare workers to the Ebola crisis in West Africa, more than the Red Cross or richer nations, the World Health Organization says.

"Cuba has provided the numbers and the people," said Jose Luis Di Fabio, the WHO representative on the Caribbean island.

"There are more human resources from Cuba than from many, many NGOs [non-governmental organisations] put together."


I expect it is all lies anyway.............

[beanzontoast]

See there you go again and that was definitely a rant, the topic ia Alternatives to UKIP, I have kept to the topic, where did infant mortality rates, Ebola and Cuba come from,  when you could have mentioned the mortality rates in north staffs , which brings me to paraphrase Stranger. Alternative to UKIP  all the information would appear to suggest no there isn't an alternative to UKIP.

[mk1]

the topic ia Alternatives to UKIP, I have kept to the topic, where did infant mortality rates, Ebola and Cuba come from

They came from the same place as this 'on topic' claim you made earlier:

how many of his own people did Stallin kill was it 20 millions or just 8 millions.  What no comments on the socialist management of the Welsh NHS. Or the french economy run by another socialist.

[crisstw]

If memory serves me well this was to do with the planning application to build houses next to the Raby Arms. There was a problem with 200 year old trees on the site and Marjorie James asked  "can't we just move them".

She's come up with a few corkers in her time. There was another instance when I think the Mayfair Centre wanted to put up new neon signage. Marj was against the idea as she thought that it would confuse shipping and oil tankers would end up on Seaton beach.

She must have read Jamaica Inn at some stage.

Oh Dear!!! haha

Thanks!

[Mican]

The EU's answer to UKIP?


"David Cameron is fighting to stop Britain being forced to pay an extra £1.7 billion to the European Union due to the success of the British economy.

The Prime Minister was ambushed with a demand from the European Commission for the extra cash because Britain's economy has performed better than other economies in Europe since 1995.

The bill is due on December 1 and Mr Cameron is particularly enraged because Brussels accountants are also preparing to give France back £790 million as its economy performed less well than Britain's."

If ever there was a reason to get out of the EU I think this has to be the biggest.