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« Reply #150 on: February 06, 2020, 06: PM »
Didn't the scabs ultimately turn their backs on Labour, not the other way around...
They got SAB bang to rights on campaigning for a non Labour councillor. It is a sacking offence and the dope was too stupid to realise what he was doing. For certain he knew he was getting kicked out so he 'resigned' before that happened. The rest realised their time was up and they left soon after.   Its like a man facing the firing squad pulling out a gun and shooting himself in the head a second before the squad shoot at him. Technically he cheated the firing squad.

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« Reply #151 on: February 06, 2020, 08: PM »
Didn't the scabs ultimately turn their backs on Labour, not the other way around...
They got SAB bang to rights on campaigning for a non Labour councillor. It is a sacking offence and the dope was too stupid to realise what he was doing. For certain he knew he was getting kicked out so he 'resigned' before that happened. The rest realised their time was up and they left soon after.   Its like a man facing the firing squad pulling out a gun and shooting himself in the head a second before the squad shoot at him. Technically he cheated the firing squad.

How many millions of square miles did they need to scour and how long did it take them to find the balls to put a tale on SAB.....(pun intended)

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« Reply #152 on: February 06, 2020, 08: PM »

How many millions of square miles did they need to scour and how long did it take them to find the balls to put a tale on SAB.....(pun intended)

I believe they tried deselection but he had the local group stuffed with friends-they way Ray did it with the local Conservative Party and got Shane to self- defenestrate.

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Re: Transport infrastructure.
« Reply #153 on: February 07, 2020, 08: AM »
Didn't the scabs ultimately turn their backs on Labour, not the other way around...
They got SAB bang to rights on campaigning for a non Labour councillor. It is a sacking offence and the dope was too stupid to realise what he was doing. For certain he knew he was getting kicked out so he 'resigned' before that happened. The rest realised their time was up and they left soon after.   Its like a man facing the firing squad pulling out a gun and shooting himself in the head a second before the squad shoot at him. Technically he cheated the firing squad.

How many millions of square miles did they need to scour and how long did it take them to find the balls to put a tale on SAB.....(pun intended)


Labour didn't do any of that.  In the end it was by pure chance that a member of this board spotted it on the way to work one morning, knew enough to see that it was worth getting a picture and did so (albeit not very good ones but enough in the end).

No idea who the person was who did for them and added the final straw to the already straining camels back, no idea at all................ .... ::) ::) ::)

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Re: Transport infrastructure.
« Reply #154 on: February 07, 2020, 08: PM »
The comment about shooting himself in the head would result in no injury whatsoever.

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« Reply #155 on: February 14, 2020, 08: PM »
My original post was regarding the transporter being way past itís sell by date. Itís been closed since July and now itís been announcedtoday there is a full structural survey which will keep it closed till August/September. Donít bother, just replace it at Cargo Fleet.

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« Reply #156 on: February 14, 2020, 11: PM »
My original post was regarding the transporter being way past itís sell by date. Itís been closed since July and now itís been announcedtoday there is a full structural survey which will keep it closed till August/September. Donít bother, just replace it at Cargo Fleet.

Never to reopen?

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« Reply #157 on: February 16, 2020, 11: AM »
Why spend money for a so called bridge thatís open 8 till 4 which closes for an hour for lunch and closed on Sundays, apparently for bungee jumping.
Thatís not a working bridge, itís a novelty act.
Meanwhile, the answer to such problems is to keep widening the A19 even more. ::)

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« Reply #158 on: February 16, 2020, 11: AM »
Run by Cleveland Transit at one point in time.

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« Reply #159 on: February 16, 2020, 12: PM »
I agree the transporter bridge is a waste of space and should be dismantled and replaced by a TRANSPORT crossing and not be a very expensive plaything. It is not even impressive as an engineering icon - if you had a Meccano set, it was one of the first things  you built as it was so easy.

It is in the ideal place for a new crossing to enable workers north of the Tees to access the proposed works and Freeport in the Redcar area. Replace it with a bridge or tunnel.

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« Reply #160 on: February 16, 2020, 03: PM »
Quite a lot of people outside of this forum would disagree with that POV. Find it curious people would want to dismantle something that is probably the biggest landmark on Teesside! Last time I checked there isnít a load of other things in the way down there (or other places) where a new bridge could be built without having to destroy our industrial heritage ! Itís grade II* listed anyway so you will never be rid of the thing, unless you want to lobby Middlesbrough Council to deliberately let it fall down (and miraculously face no backlash from the general public)

The bigger issue with a crossing down there would be the road links to / from it. You would have to turn the existing road to Seaton into a dual carriage way which, coupled with the increase in traffic, would do wonders for our other big Teesside tourist attraction down that way (Saltholme). Or should we prioritise making space or infrastructure for cars over everything else?

Itís would be a fraction of the cost (and impact) to run a better rail service or tram / metro style operation if connectivity was the issue. Simply building more and more roads has consistently proven a counter productive. See LA or the M25

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« Reply #161 on: February 16, 2020, 05: PM »
Quite a lot of people outside of this forum would disagree with that POV. Find it curious people would want to dismantle something that is probably the biggest landmark on Teesside! Last time I checked there isnít a load of other things in the way down there (or other places) where a new bridge could be built without having to destroy our industrial heritage ! Itís grade II* listed anyway so you will never be rid of the thing, unless you want to lobby Middlesbrough Council to deliberately let it fall down (and miraculously face no backlash from the general public)
Itís not our industrial heritage any more than the Tyne Bridge is. Itís a very expensive museum piece that needs replacing as it no longer does what it was meant to do. If the public of ĎTeessideí want to pay for it, they can. I for one donít.

The bigger issue with a crossing down there would be the road links to / from it. You would have to turn the existing road to Seaton into a dual carriage way which, coupled with the increase in traffic, would do wonders for our other big Teesside tourist attraction down that way (Saltholme). Or should we prioritise making space or infrastructure for cars over everything else?
In the 80ís a tunnel was proposed to run through to Cargo Fleet from the opposite bank. Check out the disused dual carriageway bridge at Graythorp which was part of the plan. Saltholme has a constant stream of tankers and other traffic constantly going down to Seal Sands, a dual carriageway would probably alleviate things. í

Itís would be a fraction of the cost (and impact) to run a better rail service or tram / metro style operation if connectivity was the issue. Simply building more and more roads has consistently proven a counter productive. See LA or the M25
It certainly would, but they ainít gonna do it. Cheap as chips to do, everything is there, but can you rely upon rail companyís to do it...no. Everyone has a car because public transport sadly, is unreliable in the long term, expensive and run for the convenience of the companyís. Theyíve been promising trams and all sorts since the 70ís for the area, but nothing ever happens.


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« Reply #163 on: February 16, 2020, 07: PM »
The infrastructure on the south side is good to the A66. Little improvement necessary.
On the north side the military road isnít as good but it isnít bad and could be improved at little cost. I donít think the wildlife would be affected. It would soon accept any initial disturbance. As IK reported the current bridge is a cash eater and serves no useful purpose. I bet the Middlesbrough CT payer would gladly accept a reduction in CT in lieu of a useless hunk of metal. It was built to satisfy the demands of the 18th Century not the 21st and was out of date when it opened.
Newcastle got its prefabricated tunnel laid on the river bed and that could easily be done here.
We need better access to the Redcar sites to be able to take advantage of the job opportunities on offer.

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« Reply #164 on: February 16, 2020, 08: PM »
The trouble with the Tees Valley is itís like an horseshoe and more access across the river is needed to open it up. The transporter was past it 60 years ago and should have been replaced then.