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Re: Brexit Party anyone?
« Reply #15 on: September 12, 2019, 10: PM »


If that happens, and the local Brexit party does emerge and absorbs the HIU................ .It's not beyond the realms of possibility Hartlepool will have a brexit party MP................. ....

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What do you mean 'if'?
Its 100% certain that the IU is Farage stalking Horse. It is absolutely certain they will fight any GE as Farage Stooges and it was the plan before the last election. Tennant is a senior member of Farage's bandwagon and the prospective Farage Candidate for Hartlepool has already been chosen. They will not reveal who it is because that would give the game away and finally destroy the fiction of an 'Independent' Council.
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olls have shown that the obsessive Brexiteers are quite prepared to see the UK break up to get their fantasy. When people are that myopic then we are indeed in for a rough ride.
Of course all this speculation can be ended quite easily by Shane publicly stating he will never join, stand for, campaign for or have anything to do with the Farage Bandwagon.

I knew it, my dog knew it and nearly everyone here knew it but they pretended they didn't. It was so obvious but in the  clamour to  crow about the Labour defeat they were prepared to overlook it.
 This was the plan right from the start and the IU took a decision to keep it hidden until they thought it was safe to end the deception. I will go further. Most of the posters on the Post Facebook will not make a fuss about it because it is what they want. Welcome to the Land of hypocrisy!
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Re: Brexit Party anyone?
« Reply #16 on: September 12, 2019, 10: PM »

If, and I personally think it WILL happen, the Tories stand down in 60-90 labour heartlands such as Hartlepool, Labour will be in massive trouble in terms of the number of seats they’ll occupy after a general election.



It is a double-edged weapon. Labour could do the same in seats where they have no chance and the Libs are second.

This is the way politics is heading. The Republicans in North Carolina used a very dirty trick to force through tax cuts for their Donors.

https://www.motherjones.com/politics/2019/09/north-carolina-republicans-used-an-insane-dirty-trick-to-cut-corporate-taxes/

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Re: Brexit Party anyone?
« Reply #17 on: September 12, 2019, 10: PM »
There was an article in The Financial Times 2 days ago that was about Brexit voters in 'Northern Communities'

https://www.ft.com/content/b2f15064-d3a1-11e9-a0bd-ab8ec6435630


It was repeated in The i today with one slight change. The photo of Consett was replaced with this one:



It is marked as a 'Getty Image' which means the newspaper  asked for a stock photo of a 'deprived Northern Community' and Getty have a Hartlepool image marked as such. We are famous!

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Re: Brexit Party anyone?
« Reply #18 on: September 13, 2019, 09: AM »
Without a clear simple message on Brexit, Labour are going to be in trouble at the next GE. But they are a Leave Party. First and foremost, they want to negotiate the best Brexit deal they can. Mike will be articulating Labour's Leave credentials in his election communications I'm sure, and therefore Hartlepool Leave voters will have to choose between the Tories, Labour, The Brexit Party and Socialist Labour.

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Re: Brexit Party anyone?
« Reply #19 on: September 15, 2019, 07: PM »
I don't have a problem voting for a Brexit candidate, whatever peoples feelings are the majority of the electorate voted leave, members of parliament had an obligation to fullfil that result, they have taken 3 years squirming and wriggling to keep us in the EU.

What the last three years has shown is that politics in this country is broken, there isn't a picking between all parties, lies and disinformation have plagued the Brexit issue from the start the politicians have ended up putting democracy into the hands of the judiciary.

Locally I don't give flying flamingo who runs the council as long as they focus their interest on their wards and the town and most definitely 'Not on their Party'.

I like everyone else I was hoping for a coalition council who collaborated on putting Hartlepool first, sadly the first council meeting proved that was never going to happen, what was also apparent was that the labour councillors and the Pixies would be as obstructive as possible during the rest of the council year and so far they have.





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Re: Brexit Party anyone?
« Reply #20 on: September 15, 2019, 07: PM »
I don't have a problem voting for a Brexit candidate, whatever peoples feelings are the majority of the electorate voted leave, members of parliament had an obligation to fullfil that result, they have taken 3 years squirming and wriggling to keep us in the EU.



I think you will find the reason we have not already left with a deal is JRM and the Spartans. It is them who blocked May's deal and it is them who destroyed the Tory Party in their quest for ideological purity.
Let me repeat that. It is the 'No Deal' zealots who kept us in.

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Re: Brexit Party anyone?
« Reply #21 on: September 15, 2019, 07: PM »


What the last three years has shown is that politics in this country is broken, there isn't a picking between all parties, lies and disinformation have plagued the Brexit issue from the start the politicians have ended up putting democracy into the hands of the judiciary.

That was always the case. Judges have  been the last resort when contentious issues are raised. Look at how different Government Agencies/Councils  have had to change (for example)a  Benefits policy because it was deemed unlawful. Look up Judicial Review.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Judicial_review_in_English_law

It worked that way for centuries. What is happening now is  those who find Judges do not agree with them are trying to destroy the Courts in order to get their way. They want to wreck the system because they believe they and they alone should get their way and everyone else can go  fcuck themselves. Its the  extreme 'winner takes all'  mentality.
By the way can anyone show me a case where the Judges ruled against a Remainer  (there have been several) and the Remainer newspaper had front page headlines calling Judges triators?  Just one example so we can see that 'both sides do it'

This attempt to cow the courts is unprecedented .It shows how far some people are prepared to go to force their extreme views  on the general public.

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Re: Brexit Party anyone?
« Reply #22 on: September 15, 2019, 07: PM »


I like everyone else I was hoping for a coalition council who collaborated on putting Hartlepool first, sadly the first council meeting proved that was never going to happen, what was also apparent was that the labour councillors and the Pixies would be as obstructive as possible during the rest of the council year and so far they have.

I agree Labour have been obstructive but I can also saw the IU  deliberately lie and they never were anything  like Independent. I said it from the beginning they were always going to be Farage stooges and they lacked the courage to come out and say it. We had Shane here a few weeks back desperately trying to explain away why he was pictured beaming in the background when Farage visited The Marina.   If you check the film you can see him realise he is in shot and he moves away from the camera. Who could for a second believe the mainly EX-UKIP councillors and the elected Euro MP for the Brexit Party were not going to join UKIP MkII The Brexit Party?  It was glaringly obvious and anyone who says it came as a surprise is either naive in the extreme of terminally stupid.  If however an extreme Brexit means that much to someone they are prepared to countenance any trick or deception to that end  just come out and say it. Admit that rules only apply to those whose politics you don't support.

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Boris bottles it.......................
« Reply #23 on: September 16, 2019, 05: PM »
Like Trump Boris simply runs a mile from anything that detracts from his 'hugely popular man-of-the-people' myth:

https://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/entry/boris-johnson-booed-luxembourg-protest_uk_5d7f8e7ee4b03b5fc886f7d1
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